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Moon Puppy Veteran Joined: 13 Nov 2007 Posts: 4931	Posted: Wed Jan 14, 2009 9:55 am Post subject: JohnRandolphHardisonCain wrote: Moon Puppy wrote: Get this...we have someone here who finds a state government form to cumbersome yet he claims to know all the answers to the world political problems... We need one of those monkey butt emoticons. I don't like filling out forms - never have - even college application forms. I file state and federal income tax returns. They are accurate measures of my income. That should suffice to qualify my family for PeachCare. NOBODY can force me to fill out multiple forms every six months to qualify my kids for PeaceCare. then stop bitching about people being uninsured. You have to do something in your life for your self. You shouldn't expect everything to be handed to you. Do you get food stamps, or card or what ever food assistance they have now? _________________ You can't hold a liberal responsible for what they say, it's character assassination.
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Barry Paschal Veteran Joined: 06 Aug 2007 Posts: 2971 Location: Columbia County, Ga.	Posted: Wed Jan 14, 2009 10:02 am Post subject: JohnRandolphHardisonCain wrote: Please explain to me how taxpayers are providing catastrophic health insurance for my family and me when catastrophic illness is the number one reason for personal bankruptcy. I'll be happy to (though it will require navigating through a non-sequitur). By your choice, you have no health insurance. Hospitals are required to provide care for anyone who presents themselves at an emergency room. If you are deemed indigent, the taxpayers will pay for your health care. (If you present at a private hospital, you will soon be moved to a public hospital after you are stabilized.) If you are not indigent, some (not all; some is protected) of your estate will be depleted prior to taxpayers picking up the tab for the remainder. Thus, the poor and those who choose not to purchase health insurance have free catastrophic health insurance provided by the taxpayers. (Keep in mind: This is a virtual policy. Don't check your file drawer for it.) Those who have insurance do not have access to this virtual insurance unless both their lifetime limits of coverage and their own estates are first depleted - thus, the impetus for bankruptcy for those with insurance facing bills from catastrophic illness. (And remember: Those without insurance facing catastrophic illness may also seek bankruptcy protection when hospitals seek payment for their health care, an option that would be open to you if anyone in your family faces a catastrophic illness.) _________________ www.newstimesonline.com
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JohnRandolphHardisonCain Godfather Joined: 06 Aug 2007 Posts: 6496 Location: underground aquifer	Posted: Wed Jan 14, 2009 10:04 am Post subject: austinr wrote: JohnRandolphHardisonCain wrote: Please explain to me how taxpayers are providing catastrophic health insurance for my family and me when catastrophic illness is the number one reason for personal bankruptcy, Rabbi Paschal. People are not automatically enrolled in PeachCare. They have to jump through hoops and then jump through those same hoops over and over. Why are their so many uninsured children in Georgia? Are they all "lazy, irresponsible" parents like me?[/color] -------- Your wife is bitten by a black widow spider. She develops complications, goes into organ failure...and stays in a coma for a month. Hospital bill is 400 grand. The family farm is in YOUR NAME, not hers...and since it was inherited, it cannot be attached unless YOU are the sick one. The hospital never gets squat from you (too much effing paperwork anyway)...they charge it off to indigent care, and since you live in Jefferson County, AUGUSTA taxpayers get the majority of THAT bill. YOU have made a conscious decision to relinquish your responsibilities. Pure laziness. You have lost all rights to even voice an adult opinion in the world...at least any opinion that should be noticed. AR JohnRandolphHardisonCain replies: I already told you that I would sell my share of the farm to my sisters at book value to pay for my wife's catastrophic medical bills. But now that you tell me I don't have too because the state will pick up the tab for my "pure laziness and gross irresponsibility" then GOOD. So be it. Eff the system. YOU backed torture at Abu Ghraib and at Guantanamo. You called torture of the severest kind "like a college prank". I'd rather be a ne'er do well than an American who supports criminal behavior in the White House and by U.S. personnel. Eff you, Austin. Go ahead an repeal all estate taxes. Lower corporate taxes too. The sooner this corrupt system collapses into chaos and anarchy the better. _________________ Augusta Alternative Dem imonde
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Moon Puppy Veteran Joined: 13 Nov 2007 Posts: 4931	Posted: Wed Jan 14, 2009 10:08 am Post subject: JohnRandolphHardisonCain wrote: Eff you, Austin. I'd like to know why the administration of this board allows JohnRandolphHardisonCain to repeatedly insult others on this board in this matter. _________________ You can't hold a liberal responsible for what they say, it's character assassination.
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deRon Newbie Joined: 28 May 2008 Posts: 57	Posted: Wed Jan 14, 2009 10:09 am Post subject: Ok, now watch, the trap has been set, just like with Riv..... _________________ outonalimb
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JohnRandolphHardisonCain Godfather Joined: 06 Aug 2007 Posts: 6496 Location: underground aquifer	Posted: Wed Jan 14, 2009 10:09 am Post subject: Barry Paschal wrote: JohnRandolphHardisonCain wrote: Please explain to me how taxpayers are providing catastrophic health insurance for my family and me when catastrophic illness is the number one reason for personal bankruptcy. I'll be happy to (though it will require navigating through a non-sequitur). By your choice, you have no health insurance. Hospitals are required to provide care for anyone who presents themselves at an emergency room. If you are deemed indigent, the taxpayers will pay for your health care. (If you present at a private hospital, you will soon be moved to a public hospital after you are stabilized.) If you are not indigent, some (not all; some is protected) of your estate will be depleted prior to taxpayers picking up the tab for the remainder. Thus, the poor and those who choose not to purchase health insurance have free catastrophic health insurance provided by the taxpayers. (Keep in mind: This is a virtual policy. Don't check your file drawer for it.) Those who have insurance do not have access to this virtual insurance unless both their lifetime limits of coverage and their own estates are first depleted - thus, the impetus for bankruptcy for those with insurance facing bills from catastrophic illness. (And remember: Those without insurance facing catastrophic illness may also seek bankruptcy protection when hospitals seek payment for their health care, an option that would be open to you if anyone in your family faces a catastrophic illness.) JohnRandolphHardisonCain replies: Good. Eff the system. The sooner it collapses under the weight of "lazy, irresponsible" people like me that better. I will have done my part to bring Amerikkka down. _________________ Augusta Alternative Dem imonde
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Moon Puppy Veteran Joined: 13 Nov 2007 Posts: 4931	Posted: Wed Jan 14, 2009 10:13 am Post subject: JohnRandolphHardisonCain wrote: Good. Eff the system. The sooner it collapses under the weight of "lazy, irresponsible" people like me that better. I will have done my part to bring Amerikkka down. As we all expected, you want nothing other than the collapse of the U.S. That's why you relish the deaths of our soldiers and praise any enemy of the U.S. Talk about biting the hand that feeds you... _________________ You can't hold a liberal responsible for what they say, it's character assassination.
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deRon Newbie Joined: 28 May 2008 Posts: 57	Posted: Wed Jan 14, 2009 10:17 am Post subject: Moon Puppy wrote: JohnRandolphHardisonCain wrote: Eff you, Austin. I'd like to know why the administration of this board allows JohnRandolphHardisonCain to repeatedly insult others on this board in this matter. Excellent work, moon, on capturing that deleted post. Nobody can understand the riverman controversy 'cause it's gone. _________________ outonalimb
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Moon Puppy Veteran Joined: 13 Nov 2007 Posts: 4931	Posted: Wed Jan 14, 2009 10:20 am Post subject: deRon wrote: Moon Puppy wrote: JohnRandolphHardisonCain wrote: Eff you, Austin. I'd like to know why the administration of this board allows JohnRandolphHardisonCain to repeatedly insult others on this board in this matter. Excellent work, moon, on capturing that deleted post. Nobody can understand the riverman controversy 'cause it's gone. That post has not been deleted. No one is making randycain type this crap. It's up to him to be civil. _________________ You can't hold a liberal responsible for what they say, it's character assassination.
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Moon Puppy Veteran Joined: 13 Nov 2007 Posts: 4931	Posted: Wed Jan 14, 2009 10:22 am Post subject: Moon Puppy wrote: JohnRandolphHardisonCain wrote: Good. Eff the system. The sooner it collapses under the weight of "lazy, irresponsible" people like me that better. I will have done my part to bring Amerikkka down. As we all expected, you want nothing other than the collapse of the U.S. That's why you relish the deaths of our soldiers and praise any enemy of the U.S. Talk about biting the hand that feeds you... I think it's safe to say that JohnRandolphHardisonCain is AntiAmerican in all validity. _________________ You can't hold a liberal responsible for what they say, it's character assassination.
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US military buildup in Afghanistan taking form

US military buildup in Afghanistan taking form

By LOLITA C. BALDOR, Associated Press Writer
3:24 pm EST Mon 22 Dec 2008

WASHINGTON – The Pentagon is poised to announce the deployment of at least one more combat brigade to Afghanistan in the coming weeks, as the expected force buildup of U.S. soldiers and Marines begins to take form.

Officials say there will likely be one more Army brigade and one Marine regimental combat team ordered to Afghanistan by the summer — and at least one of those will be announced shortly after the first of the year.

Defense officials also confirmed earlier reports that a combat aviation brigade will head to Afghanistan early next year. The brigade — roughly 2,800 soldiers from the 82nd Airborne — is based at Fort Bragg, N.C.

All told, the U.S. could nearly double its troop levels there to as many as 60,000, sending up to four combat brigades and thousands of support forces within the next year.

Gen. David McKiernan, the commander of U.S. and NATO forces, has asked for four combat brigades and thousands of support troops — which could total between 25,000-30,000 troops in addition to the roughly 32,000 there now.

Ramping up the U.S. contingent in Afghanistan will likely take much of next year, as combat brigades and support units gradually move in. The first unit to go will be the 3rd Brigade, 10th Mountain Division, which will deploy to Afghanistan in the coming weeks.

The 82nd Airborne aviation unit will deploy in the spring. That unit is smaller than a ground combat brigade, which normally numbers about 3,500. Therefore it does not fill one of the requirements for four combat brigades that McKiernan requested.

After that, a Marine combat unit and the second Army brigade will likely move in by summer. Officials said Monday they are still not clear when the fourth combat brigade would deploy — but one estimate is very late in 2009.

The added forces come even as U.S. officials, including Defense Secretary Robert Gates, caution that they also don't want too many American troops in Afghanistan. Military leaders say a key priority is to train and equip the Afghan forces so that they can take over security of their own country.

Afghan President Hamid Karzai has expressed similar concerns, and he pressed America's top military leader Monday on the U.S. strategy in Afghanistan as the buildup begins.

Karzai asked Adm. Mike Mullen, the chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, what kinds of operations the newly deployed troops would carry out and said the Afghan government should be consulted about those operations.

He also told Mullen that the troops need to be careful in Afghan villages — alluding to his often-repeated protests about the civilian casualties caused by some military operations.

U.S. military officials have stressed that commanders do all they can to avoid civilian casualties, but they also note that insurgents often use civilians as shields. Officials have suggested that the military's heavy reliance on air power in Afghanistan runs a greater risk of innocent deaths, but they have also agreed to cooperate more with Afghan officials to investigate such incidents.

As the U.S. fashions its increase in force levels, it appears that many — including the 82nd Airborne aviation brigade — will be assigned to the NATO-led coalition. Currently 14,000 of the U.S. troops in Afghanistan are operating under the coalition, while 18,000 are training Afghan forces and fighting insurgents.

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U.S. death toll in Iraq reaches 4213

Monday 22 December 2008 - 4th report on U.S. war in Iraq.

As of 2:29 pm EST Mon 22 Dec 2008 http://icasualties.org/oif/website had raised its tally of U.S. military fatalities from the war in Iraq to 4213.

12/22/08 MNF: Marine killed in action

A Multi National Force - West Marine died Dec. 21, as the result of wounds received in action when he was attacked by an enemy force in al-Anbar province. The name of the deceased is being withheld pending next-of-kin notification...

12/22/08 AP: UK blocks transfer of soldier murder suspects

A British court says two Iraqis accused of murdering British soldiers won't be handed over to authorities in Baghdad before a full hearing into their case.